Sorry Lori, it was only in Print Media newspaper

Tried to search google but did not find anything.

I believe one was sponsored by an outfit called "Latino Business Roundtable" while the other was by an org called MANA or MANE ( its an Latina national org )Not sure what the acronym stands for.

One poll was done in March, other in april.

It was in the weekly Hispano americano papers

No problems, once Clinton goes all out in her support of Obama as the nominee (as she has promised over and over again, hopefully she at least keeps that promise huh?), Latinos and others who currently support Clinton over Obama will move over to Obama.

Uhh, what's with all these metrics that you come up with- lose X, lose the election- that are bunk considering we're in the primary season, and not the general election.

Clinton has incredible deficits in the African-American bloc, as well as independent voters. Those are huge, huge votings blocs that are just as much a problem for her. If you're going to claim Obama can't improve before November, and therefore is unelectable, Clinton suffers from the exact same detriment.

HR'ed. Not nessesary to use the words you did or come up with a personal attack against the Clintons.

Problem is you are still talking about how Obama is the apparent primary winner

Many of us are already looking at the ugly November with Obama as the nominee.

Any Non-Partisan Super Delegate who is not scared to be labeled a "racist" by Black leaders will come to a non-bias conclusion for November.

Without "solid" support from two groups.

white democrats & latino democrats...

it would be virtually impossible for Obama to win in november. Impossible.

Kerry won the Hispanic vote by 10 points & still lost to Bush.

In 2008, unless some miracle happens, Obama will perform much worse than Kerry among both Whites & Latinos.

How in Santo Nino's sake can he possibly win the electoral college ?

I agree with Russert & CNN's Bill S.

The popular vote will not be a blowout in November due to heavy Inner city turnout for Obama.

But the electoral college count is a whole different story. It may be Very Ugly for Obama. depending on how millions of white blue collar voters & millions of latinos decide to vote.

If I was a betting person, right now, McCain can very possibly match the 400 electoral college numbers that Bush Sr. in 1988 captured against Mike Dukakis.

Its already a trend. As voting day gets closer( like OH,TX & PA) white voters break against Obama. While Latinos are never really on his side.

McCain carries even just PA,MI,NJ combined with FL,OH,MO - we are talking about massive electoral losses !

and these polls show latinos picking McCain in worrisome numbers over Obama

You sound like a fairy god mother with some magic wand who can just make all latinos disappear. lol

This is not a game of checkers were we can re-position the pieces & keep playing until you win.

Who do you propose we bring in to just "replace" the Latinos? Anti-immigration fundies?

Latinos are poised to become the biggest minority voting bloc in 2008, more than AA's now, and one of the largest reasons that both Gore and Kerry lost was because of the drop in Latino support after the Clinton presidency. You can notice the trend in exit polling, Clinton pulled 72%, won, Gore pulled around 63%, lost, and Kerry pulled in around 53% and lost.

Hillary will bring Latinos and Latinas back into the party in massive numbers. Losing the Latino bloc to McCain could be a disaster, because it could mean losing them to the GOP permanantly. And then we're really in trouble.

Because Hillary is a strong candidate that appeals to Latino's? Obviously you can't explain the primary numbers away as racial tensions between Latino's and AA's.  The gap is too big for that.

I think Obama will do ok with them in the GE, maybe getting upwards of 40% of the Latino vote or higher depending on his VP nominee.

Dems are lucky to get a 55/45 split on the Latino vote in a GE.  Bush got that split in 2004 and I imagine the same will hold true for McCain.

Bobbank,

I cannot speak for all latinos.

But in my personal opinion.

McCain- One, Latinos like McCain because of the wide coverage he got on standing-up on Immigration against the Powerful GOP conservative wing.

Remember, very few prominent republicans took the position McCain did. Limbaugh, Hannity were all attacking Mccain 24/7 on Immigration.

Two, he really has done a very good job of reaching out to Southwest Hispanics in Arizona, New Mexico, NV & CO. He's been in office for so long that he has built cross party latino relationships.

As for Obama's weakness with Latinos.

Personally, I hear three things a lot.

One, many latinos truly believe he is " Not Ready, Not Qualified" to be President. ( you hear even comments that Latino Richardson is much more qualified than Obama to be president)

Two, some racial/ethnic bias. I hate to bring this up & acknowledge it since majority of Latinos have no problems with the black community.

But I would be dishonest if I did not admit that there is a significant enough number of Latinos who has racial issues.

I would compare the Latino racial issues with blacks as very similar to Asian-american issues with african-americans. ( as reported on AsianWeek & discussed by asian activists)

This is widely discussed in among Asian activists since Clinton defeated Obama by 4 to 1 in CA, NY,NJ & MA among Asians. That's 8 out of 10 asians voting for Clinton. Almost as close as 9 out 10 blacks voting for obama.

Just like there are some white voters who have racial issues with african-Americans.

unfortunately is out there.

Pretending it does not exists does nothing for anyone.

three, some anger towards Obama due to the heated race with Clinton.

the problem here is Latinos are swing voters.

They really have never been a solid, democratic block. If they are pissed-off at Obama, there would be no hesistation to vote for McCain.

If they voted for Jeb Bush, George Bush, Arnold Schwarzenegger & Mccain while a senator in Arizona.

Watch out for Puerto Rico.

Clinton will win BIG in PR.

That's a good question.

I don't think that it hurts that Hillary has history with Latinos with some of her work earlier in her life. The Bill connection also doesn't hurt either, as Latinos absoutley adored Bill. But from what I saw in El Paso, the Latino population really does love Hillary and trust her to run the country. I think that for the most part (risking a stereotype here), Latinos and Latinas are very much into the family type traditions, and go with the proven result. That's why they trust Hillary, and not Obama.

It just seems like alot of the Obama reach out to Latinos has seemed fake to me as well, and he's really busted his butt to get that vote too, sending out A-level surrogates, massive ad buys, and hasn't been able to make one single dent. It's a distrust that I think alot in the Latino community, especally the older Latinos, seen in a flashy newcomer with no proven results and no track record of involvement with the Latino community, and Hillary does have that trackrecord.

Since Obama does not have that trackrecord or that trust with the community I think they go to McCain next because of his fairly liberal stance on immigration policy; and also because many Latinos identify strongly with the social politics of the Republican Party. Alot of older Latinos are fairly socially conservative and this contributed alot to their switch to Bush in 2004 and their potential switch to the GOP if Obama is the nominee in 08.

hmmm I am thinking of two possibilities:

   1. Latinos/Hispanics are hugely loyal to the
       Clintons, (over 40,000 once gathered at an
       airport to just see Bill wave to them; i
       was there!) meaning they might feel  
       betrayed if Obama wins the nom. much like
       how black people would feel if Hillary won.
       As well as this kind of disrespect Obama's  
       campaign has for Bill...

   2. Obama has done a shitty job of reaching out
       to the H/L community. Maybe he wrote them
       off knowing they went 2:1 for Clinton.

Why does John McCain do so well?

 -I think some people would call the H/L community racist, but I seriously doubt that  
reason.I am part of that community and while I
cant speak for everyone, the H/L is hugely diverse, meaning that we tend to respect other's cultures.

I certainly can't speak for the Latino community, but I'd guess that McCain would do better than other Republicans because of this stance on the immigration bill.

Oddly enough, he and George W. Bush were the only two prominent Republicans who were on the better side of this issue.

I think you see Obama doing poorly among latinos in polls and in primaries.  I do not see it as him doing poorly in the GE.  I think to judge the performance of a candidate in a election six months hence based on polls is to base your life on astrology.  I see little likelihood that a majority of latinos will vote for McCain when they find out that he has abandoned his previous positions.

Just wanted to thank everyone for being civil in response to my question.

I knew why many latinos and latinas favor Hillary over Barack - she just has very very deep roots with the community.  But I was perplexed why so many would apparently switch Repub if Barack is nominated.

The thing about liking McCain because he took heavy political hits to stand up on the immigration issue makes sense.  Indeed that may have been a calculated move on his part.

Hillary at 42%, and McCain taking 52% against both. The main difference is that Obama has more undecideds.

Meanwhile, 47% of non-white voters might go for her, versus 60% for Obama. How she's going to make up an eight-point gap with those numbers, nobody knows.

And polls mean..........what?

The difference between Clinton and Obama is within the margin of error. If Obama's performance with white voters isn't going to cut it, Clinton's isn't either.

It is also to sleazy to cherry pick a subset where Obama does worse than Clinton, when Obama did better than Clinton against McCain over all in this specific poll.

But you know all this, and no one should have to point it out to you.

Never heard of the winner saying 'I think I'd like to be VP and have someone else as Pres.'

So your C/O ticket is never going to happen.

Well, actually on topic to this post, Bill Richardson seems like a VP pick who might be able to make some inroads for Obama with the Hispanic vote.