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adios

by observer5, Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:22:56 PM EST

Well, today is my day and this is my last post on here.

Hillary is a lost cause, obviously. However, Bill and Hillary will always have my utmost respect and affection - they have earned it. Not so for Obama.

Let's be clear: The Clintons are not perfect people. But they have been singly and severally investigated, depositioned, harangued, harassed, hounded, dissected, analyzed, examined and cross-examined, and yelled at for hours on a daily basis by rabid assholes like Limbaugh et al. Everything is there for the world to see. Not so for Obama.

I didn't spill my blood on foreign soil (5 more minutes and I would have gone into the light) to join any kind of group-think.

Patriotism is very important to me, but the war on terror is bullshit. Iraq is a colossal shithole. The whole damn Department of Homeland Security is a gargantuan pile of bullshit. For that reason, I will not vote for the Old Coot. But he has my greatest thanks and respect - especially on this day.

At any rate, I may or may not vote in November. I just don't vote for somebody I neither like nor respect.

Lifelong Registered Democrat
Purple Heart, CIB (Combat Infantryman Badge)

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Re: adios (1.68 / 16)

Bye. You added nothing but negativity to this forum.

Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:26:25 PM EST

Re: adios (2.00 / 10)

I do thank you for your service to our country. I wish you could have been a more positive force on the forum, but you werent.

Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:27:35 PM EST
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Your true colors came out on your first post (1.05 / 20)

but you realized how little you looked and thought you would try to give some of those empty words we hear so much from the liar you promote, huh?

ooops too late. Don't you hate that you can't delete your comments?

by LindaSFNM on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:33:01 PM EST
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Re: Your true colors came out on your first post (none / 0)

Nice.

United we stand, divided we fall.

by mefeck on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:36:30 PM EST
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Re: Your true colors came out on your first post (2.00 / 1)

Atleast he realizes his words and tries to make right..you on the other hand, do not care if your hate-filled lingo offends.

Obama supporter who is damn glad Hillary Clinton is a Democrat!!

by hootie4170 on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:36:44 PM EST
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that two way street... (2.00 / 3)

accusing someone of "group think" and treating them with open disrespect is not an effective means of avoiding like treatment. I respect observer's sacrifice. His attitude I do not respect... and he's perfectly within his rights to come back and demonstrate rationally how many millions of us are deluded and naive- then he might have earned my respect concerning his intellectual conduct here.

by Casuist on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:40:06 PM EST
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And his first comment was correct, Linda. (2.00 / 8)

The diarist should be commended for his service to this country, but that doesn't exempt him from criticism for his choices and conduct.

Heh, but as an aside, at one point or another, I think we've all regretted the fact that we can't delete comments.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:42:04 PM EST
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there is an option (2.00 / 2)

That's why, when dabbling in idiocy, one should display questionable remarks in a diary instead of in a comment.

They can be deleted.

Did that once myself!

by emptythreatsfarm on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:47:19 PM EST
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I've got a diary I should probably delete. (2.00 / 1)

But I'm not doing it -- I want to be able to look back and remember my stupidity, in the hopes that I never behave that way again. Of course, you have to search the archives to find it in the first place, so I'll probably never go to the trouble to reread it, anyway.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:53:41 PM EST
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all that and no..... (none / 0)

Link! Link!

by emptythreatsfarm on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:55:33 PM EST
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You might remember it, actually. (2.00 / 2)

It was on the rec list for awhile, but I think Jerome might have knocked it off. I hate to link to it... It was incredibly caustic. Do you by any chance recall a diary titled, "My Turn to be Petty and Selfish"?

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:03:57 PM EST
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Re: You might remember it, actually. (2.00 / 3)

That diary was awesome! You were a raving lunatic :)

Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:10:59 PM EST
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How wicked of you! ;) (2.00 / 2)

I was rather hoping people didn't remember that one too well. People who are only familiar with my behavior after it was written may find it difficult to believe that I wrote it.

If people comment on that thing again, I blame you.

But yes... complete raving lunatic.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:13:47 PM EST
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I was kidding about the link - naughy map! (none / 0)

At least it wasn't a "goodbye cruel world" entry like I did.

I used to work as an EMT, and although I'm a fairly compassionate person, I gotta say suicidal gestures always annoyed me.

by emptythreatsfarm on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:22:15 PM EST
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Damn, I shouldn't have followed map's link. (2.00 / 1)

I just reread the diary, and I gotta say, it's about ten times worse than I remembered. My bad.

Sheesh.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:26:18 PM EST
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Re: Damn, I shouldn't have followed map's link. (none / 0)

If the author of that screed can support Obama what chance does McCain have in November?

Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:33:12 PM EST
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well.... (none / 0)

Actually, compared to other stuff I've seen on the rec list, that was pretty tame and the discussion that followed wasn't all that bad.

I don't mind it when people get hot under the collar and let off a verbal blast. What frightens me are some of the regulars who carefully construct smear diaries.

by emptythreatsfarm on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:49:49 PM EST
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Re: well.... (none / 0)

I agree.... it really wasn't that petty or selfish...

Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...

by JenKinFLA on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:55:54 PM EST
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Exactly. That diary is the reason (none / 0)

I'm not concerned about November. If the person who wrote that thing can do a 180 and decide she'll be proud to support Obama if he wins the nomination, then anyone can.

But I do understand the Clinton supporters who say they won't vote for Obama -- I've been there, and I know how angry and miserable some of them feel. It's a terrible feeling, and I hope they ultimately move past it as easily as I did.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:54:53 PM EST
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Re: Exactly. That diary is the reason (none / 0)

It is tough when your candidate loses the nomination or an election.... I have dealt with that often as I usually do not back the obvious favorites... I'm on my 4th, count it 4th now.

Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...

by JenKinFLA on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:57:24 PM EST
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Someone on this blog, though I can't (none / 0)

remember who it was, said something I liked. S/he said, "Primaries are for falling in love. General elections are for falling in line." And it's very true. I was devastated after Dean dropped out, but I sucked it up and worked hard for Kerry. Most of us it get over it eventually.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Mon May 26, 2008 at 05:01:34 PM EST
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Re: Someone on this blog, though I can't (none / 0)

Oddly enough, it was Bill Clinton who first used that line...

And probably will again this year...

Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...

by JenKinFLA on Mon May 26, 2008 at 05:09:37 PM EST
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I've never gotten over it (none / 0)

Not me.

I was a Dean supporter too.

As soon as Dean was out, I made up my mind then and there that I wasn't voting for that effete, wind-surfing, swiftboat driving idiot Kerry.

I voted for Bush, because the Democrats needed to be taught a lesson.

I knew at the time four more years of Bush wouldn't be that bad.

I mean, really, can you imagine President Kerry?

;)

by emptythreatsfarm on Mon May 26, 2008 at 05:12:52 PM EST
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Re: Your true colors came out on your first post (none / 0)

Well, at least I can hide yours.

by ReillyDiefenbach on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:53:57 PM EST
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Your true colors came out on your first post (1.00 / 12)

but you realized how little you looked and thought you would try to give some of those empty words we hear so much from the liar you promote, huh?

ooops too late. Don't you hate that you can't delete your comments?

by LindaSFNM on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:38:41 PM EST
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Re: Your true colors came out on your first post (none / 0)

I wouldn't be part of an online community that did allow editing or deleting content. My first post accurately described what I think the poster brought to this forum. I added the second post on further reflection to show respect for his service, and the possibility he isn't an ass in RL.

Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:46:13 PM EST
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Re: Your true colors came out on your first post (none / 0)

What "liar" does map promote exactly....?

If you are referring to Senator Obama, then you yourself are a little, petty person.

Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...

by JenKinFLA on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:42:10 PM EST
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You on the other hand (none / 0)

Feel the need to post them twice.

A ship adrift in a sea of rhetoric & recycled clichés.

by DemsRising on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:46:43 PM EST
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GBCW! n/t (2.00 / 4)

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:27:13 PM EST

Re: adios (2.00 / 1)

Every issue you listed will be better with Obama as POTUS than McCain. Might have been even better with Hillary, but thems the breaks.

Take care, see you in November.

M. It's like W, but flipflopped.

by warmwaterpenguin on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:27:22 PM EST

You give her a free pass on the war vote. n/t (2.00 / 7)

by parahammer on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:27:27 PM EST

Re: adios (2.00 / 6)

I thank you for your service to our country. I want to add that I respect our disagreements over policy and candidates.

But as a poster here, you added little more than contempt. I do not thank you for that.

Be well in whatever you do. Life is too short to spend much of it angry, and I wish you well.

by Reaper0Bot0 on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:29:06 PM EST

Re: adios (2.00 / 1)

buh bye!!

I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson

by obamaovermccain on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:29:21 PM EST

If you actually give a crap.... (2.00 / 1)

about the issues you cited there is no way you can allow McCain to win this election. It has nothing to do with patriotism and everything to do with understanding where the candidates fall on the issues.

by Seeking Cincinnatus on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:31:05 PM EST

Lemme get this straight (2.00 / 3)

Because Barack Obama is not damaged goods and viewed unfavorably by a majority of the nation you will not vote for him? I understand that you obviously see Clinton as "vetted," but since when is an individual's upside a reason not to vote for them in a general election?

I'm happy to hear you won't back McSame, but if you look at Obama's actual policy stances, you may find that he and Sen. Clinton are not that different.

by ArtVanDelay1774 on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:32:13 PM EST

Haha, I love your user name, Art. n/t (none / 0)

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:34:50 PM EST
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Re: Haha, I love your user name, Art. n/t (none / 0)

He's an importer / exporter.

Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:18:35 PM EST
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Re: adios (2.00 / 1)

I felt like leaving the party and giving up when my candidate lost four years ago. I hated Kerry and I didn't want to vote for him. I'm glad I did and I'm glad I didn't quit on the party.

It stinks when your candidate loses, but it really isn't a good reason to give up on the party. Give it some time.

No McCain in '08

by Renie on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:33:42 PM EST

What was so horrible about Kerry? (none / 0)

Just wondering.

by ReillyDiefenbach on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:59:21 PM EST
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Re: adios (1.37 / 8)

I hope you don't leave. Hillary's supporters may have many more things to do, or a jobs to work at than to sit on blogs with many a names all day, or be paid for being here, but she is always worth and the cause is always worth the support when you can give it.

Happy Memorial Day and thank you for ALL your service and efforts.

by LindaSFNM on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:37:27 PM EST

Re: adios (none / 0)

I don't like this comment.. but I mojoed to counter the HR... this shouldn't have been HRed

by CaptainMorgan on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:17:39 PM EST
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Re: adios (2.00 / 1)

Well, it was a bit mean-spirited, but I was considering the source and did not HR or TR as a result.

Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...

by JenKinFLA on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:44:25 PM EST
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Re: adios (none / 0)

Your implicit characterization of Obama supporters is insulting. Please show respect for the supporters of other candidates, just as you would hope they would show respect for you.

Join the Matthew 25 Network and help Democrats win the next generation of evangelicals.

by mistersite on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:47:34 PM EST
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Try to lay off the sauce when posting (none / 0)

you'll make much better sense.

by ReillyDiefenbach on Mon May 26, 2008 at 05:00:27 PM EST
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Re: adios (2.00 / 3)

I understand why some Clinton supporters don't like Obama , but I just think he ran a better campaign than she did . Her campaign made critical errors with the caucuses and I don't think it is Obama's fault he fought like the underdog with no margin of error which has made him successful.

She is a better candidate than the campaign she put together and it is her talents as a politician that has carried her this far inspite of her campaign.

That said if you are not interested in voting for Obama its your choice , I don't believe in party line voting even though I have voted mostly for democrats , in my neck of woods it is not surprising to find up to 35% voting republican in presidential elections and it is not going to change this cycle.

I have a favorable opinion but I disagree with him on a myraid of issues which might pose a stumbling block in the end .

I am not ready to commit to vote for any of the 3 left , Clinton , Mccain or Obama because I have points of agreement and disagreement with all of them albeit 1 more than the other 2.

" Patriotism is very important to me, but the war on terror is bullshit. Iraq is a colossal shithole. "

- I don't agree with the war on terror is bullshit line.

However there is nothing more patriotic than putting your life on the line for the country so I salute your service.

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:39:23 PM EST

Re: adios (2.00 / 2)

Wow Lori. You are right, she ran a horrible campaign and she is far better than the campaign that she ran. I know that you won't commit to Obama right now but at least you have an open mind.

Thank you.

by sweet potato pie on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:52:47 PM EST
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Re: adios (2.00 / 2)

"I just don't vote for somebody I neither like nor respect."

I hope you understand that's why so many did not and would not vote for Hillary Clinton.

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Mon May 26, 2008 at 03:55:55 PM EST

I neither like nor respect Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

but I sure would vote for her if I had to.

This is all hands on deck time - unless you live in an extremely blue or red state where your vote wouldn't matter anyway. In which case you can indulge your snit with impunity.

by Bee on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:03:02 PM EST

Re: adios (none / 0)

Bye.

See you in November.

by Deadalus on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:03:36 PM EST

Re: adios (2.00 / 2)

As you, through your service, have seen the results of the madness..I am confident you would never vote for McCain..
Consider lending your passion here
http://ivaw.org/
Peace and wholeness to you from a fellow vet..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGWsGyNsw 00

"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"

by nogo postal on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:11:13 PM EST

Thank you, Observer5 (2.00 / 2)

Observer5,
Thank you for your service to our country.
While I never wore the uniform nor had a shot fired at me in anger, the fact that you took an oath to protect and defend the constitution, with your life if need me, is not lost upon what I believe to be the vast majority of Americans.
Please come by Col. Pat Lang's (USA, Ret.) Sic Semper Tyrannis - you will be welcome and where a CIB and a Purple Heart are treasured and rightfully honored.

Sincerely,
Robert M. Murray aka taters @ SST

http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_sempe r_tyrannis/

by durendal on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:19:34 PM EST

best wishes (2.00 / 2)

I wish people had truly shown you more respect here. I'm with you...I will vote but only if it a person who I like and respect and has earned it.

by 4justice on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:38:23 PM EST

Re: best wishes (2.00 / 1)

you wish people had shown this diarist more respect...?

Hmmmm... a quick view of past quotes reveals this gem:

"The fascism from BO cultists is (1.00 / 3)

more despicable and hateful than anything ever uttered by the rightmost corner of the GOP right wing."

I would say you have to earn respect to receive it and this diarist did nothing of the sort with that kind of vitriol.

Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...

by JenKinFLA on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:54:15 PM EST
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Just another ass among many (none / 0)

in the pasture.

by ReillyDiefenbach on Mon May 26, 2008 at 05:02:30 PM EST
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Re: adios (none / 0)

Good bye; enjoy losing in November

by fightbull on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:41:07 PM EST

Re: adios (none / 0)

Thanks for your service, and sorry that you can't find it in you to support Obama, should he be our nominee.

Donate to Obama, Today!

by freedom78 on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:54:01 PM EST

Re: adios (2.00 / 2)

I'm very sad you're leaving. I can't blame you. MyDD is now becoming very much like DailyKos. There are other better moderated blogs for Hillary supporters to get together. The following are some of them:

The Confluence

TalkLeft

The Left Coaster

Corrente Boldly Shrill

Thank you so very much for your service for the country and thank you for all your posts at MyDD supporting Hillary Clinton.

I shall miss you.

by Hurdy Gurdy on Mon May 26, 2008 at 04:59:24 PM EST

Don't forget No Quarter (2.00 / 1)

and Hillaryis44, LOL!

by ReillyDiefenbach on Mon May 26, 2008 at 05:03:34 PM EST
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Re: Don't forget No Quarter (none / 0)

Another respectful unity comment from the all-loving BHO community.

by redwagon on Mon May 26, 2008 at 05:16:33 PM EST
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and respecful unity comment (none / 0)

from the all-loving Hillary Clinton "do what I say or you WILL LOSE!" community

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Mon May 26, 2008 at 05:43:44 PM EST
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Re: adios (none / 0)

Better moderated....?

On behalf of the admins and the truly thankless job they have to do, what on Earth do you mean by this?

Or is it spite that there are Obama supporters on here at all?

Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...

by JenKinFLA on Mon May 26, 2008 at 05:12:53 PM EST
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Re: adios (2.00 / 2)

Thanks for your service.

If Obama does win the nomination (90% chance), I hope he is able to win your vote by November. Your vote belongs to you alone - a sacred franchise. It is up to Obama to ask for your vote and win your vote. I hope he comes through for you and people like you.

I am a Clinton supporter, but I have not soured so on Obama that I would not be willing to vote for him. I sincerely believe that 80% or more of the negativity toward Clinton has been generated by the media in this primary. I find Obama's "new politics" schtick unconvincing, but his basic issue positions - fuzzy as they are, seem close enough to mine that I am willing to vote for him. That's a decision each of us will have to make individually, and I wishyou good luck with yours.

Your attempt to change the subject to "the issues" is irrelevant.

by itsthemedia on Mon May 26, 2008 at 05:01:26 PM EST

If you are reading this, observer5 (none / 0)

then I guess you didn't really adios, did you?

There's nothing more lame a GBCW diary. Sad, sorry, self-pitying.

Don't come back now, or you'll have lost all the credibility you've so carefully cultivated.

by OH Mark on Mon May 26, 2008 at 05:16:26 PM EST

Re: adios (none / 0)

whatever.

by rabidnation on Mon May 26, 2008 at 05:28:04 PM EST

Re: adios (none / 0)

GBCW-TNH44 Diary.

Good-bye cruel world that's not Hilloryis44.

McCainuire, The Wrath Of Not Enough Naps.

by catilinus on Mon May 26, 2008 at 05:55:16 PM EST

Re: adios (2.00 / 3)

The way I feel right now on this Memorial Day is to remember we are all Americans first, before we are Democrats. This diarist put everything on the line for all of us, whether you like him or not, and deserves more respect then what some of you are giving him. I thank the diarist for his service to our country and wish him well.

by hidesrtdav on Mon May 26, 2008 at 05:56:04 PM EST

Agree 100% (none / 0)

It's Memorial Day - the man has earned a purple heart. How many commenters on this diary have shed blood for the US? - I sure haven't. I honor the diarist and also wish him well.

by tornsneaker on Tue May 27, 2008 at 12:42:07 AM EST
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Bravo (none / 0)

Spoken like true Libertarian.

See you at the Bob Barr rally with the rest of the lunatic fringe.

by PD1769 on Mon May 26, 2008 at 09:25:03 PM EST

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